![Group of apartment buildings](/sites/g/files/omnuum10826/files/styles/hwp_21_9__1920x825/public/datasmart/files/sigmund-cwtfkh5edsk-unsplash.jpg?itok=F5ufXiwg) # Tackling Homelessness with Strategic Data and Skills Episode Fifty-Two February 12, 2024 [ Betsy Gardner ](/betsy-gardner) In this episode, Stephen Goldsmith interviews Carin Clary, the director of Homelessness and Housing at [Harvard's Government Performance Lab](https://govlab.hks.harvard.edu/). They discuss the challenges faced by cities in addressing homelessness, the crucial role of data in guiding effective interventions, and innovative approaches to reshaping homeless response systems for lasting impact. Clary offers valuable insights into data-driven strategies that not only tackle immediate challenges but also provide a roadmap for cities seeking sustainable solutions to this cross-sector problem. Listen below, or wherever you get your podcasts, to learn more. [Transcript available here](https://data-smart-city-pod.simplecast.com/episodes/tackling-homelessness-with-strategic-data-skills/transcript). ## About the Author ### Betsy Gardner ![Headshot of Betsy Gardner](/sites/g/files/omnuum10826/files/styles/hwp_1_1__100x100_scale/public/2025-05/Betsy%20Headshot%20resize.jpg?itok=k2OsSp1g) Betsy Gardner is the editor of Data-Smart City Solutions and the producer of the Data-Smart City Pod. Prior to this, Betsy worked in a variety of roles in higher education, focusing on deconstructing racial and gender inequality through research, writing, and facilitation. She also researched government spending and transparency at the Lincoln Institute of Land Policy. Betsy holds a master’s degree in Urban and Regional Policy from Northeastern University, a bachelor’s degree in Art History from Boston University, and a graduate certificate in Digital Storytelling from the Harvard Extension School. See also:- [ Health & Human Services ](/topics/health-human-services) - [ Housing ](/topics/housing) Share on:- [ Facebook ](#) - [ Twitter ](#) - [ Linkedin ](#)