![jack-prommel-kr7ik2ypzxu-unsplash.jpg](/sites/g/files/omnuum10826/files/styles/hwp_21_9__1920x825/public/datasmart/files/jack-prommel-kr7ik2ypzxu-unsplash.jpg?itok=gmjYRbB4) # Open Mobility as a Service Episode Thirteen October 26, 2021 [ Betsy Gardner ](/betsy-gardner) - October 27, 2021 - [Mobility](/mobility) This episode a conversation between Professor Steve Goldsmith and transit expert Andrew Salzberg. Previously the director of transportation policy at Uber and a fellow at Graduate School of Design at Harvard Kennedy School, Salzberg currently advocates for open mobility as a service in Montreal, Canada at Transit. A twist on the "mobility as a service" idea, Salzberg argues that transportation technology must be interoperable in order for the public to gain the greatest benefits. Listen below, or wherever you get your podcasts, to hear Professor Goldsmith and Salzberg discuss open data, the Guide to Open Mobility-as-a-Service, and why new transit apps are like Facebook Messenger. [Transcript available here](https://ashcast.simplecast.com/episodes/data-smart-city-pod-open-mobility-service/transcript). Embed ## About the Author ### Betsy Gardner ![Headshot of Betsy Gardner](/sites/g/files/omnuum10826/files/styles/hwp_1_1__100x100_scale/public/2025-05/Betsy%20Headshot%20resize.jpg?itok=k2OsSp1g) Betsy Gardner is the editor of Data-Smart City Solutions and the producer of the Data-Smart City Pod. Prior to this, Betsy worked in a variety of roles in higher education, focusing on deconstructing racial and gender inequality through research, writing, and facilitation. She also researched government spending and transparency at the Lincoln Institute of Land Policy. Betsy holds a master’s degree in Urban and Regional Policy from Northeastern University, a bachelor’s degree in Art History from Boston University, and a graduate certificate in Digital Storytelling from the Harvard Extension School. See also:- [ Mobility ](/topics/mobility) - [ Open Data ](/topics/open-data) - [ Transportation ](/topics/transportation) Share on:- [ Facebook ](#) - [ Twitter ](#) - [ Linkedin ](#)