![dscp_banner.jpg](/sites/g/files/omnuum10826/files/styles/hwp_21_9__1920x825/public/datasmart/files/dscp_banner.jpg?itok=EYtmL4Yd) # Public Safety and Policing in Dallas, TX with Mayor Eric Johnson Episode Eleven September 15, 2021 [ Betsy Gardner ](/betsy-gardner) - September 15, 2021 - [Public Safety](/public-safety) In this episode, Professor Steve Goldsmith interviews Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson. They discuss the role of the mayor in maintaining public safety, balancing community values, and prioritizing research-based ideas over reactionary polarization. Listen below, or wherever you get your podcasts, to hear Professor Goldsmith and Mayor Johnson talk about the positive strides Dallas has made against violent crime, how mayors can implement non-law enforcement safety strategies, and how to implement this type of work in other cities. [Transcript available here](https://ashcast.simplecast.com/episodes/data-smart-city-pod-public-safety-and-policing-EddMUV7K/transcript). Embed ## About the Author ### Betsy Gardner ![Headshot of Betsy Gardner](/sites/g/files/omnuum10826/files/styles/hwp_1_1__100x100_scale/public/2025-05/Betsy%20Headshot%20resize.jpg?itok=k2OsSp1g) Betsy Gardner is the editor of Data-Smart City Solutions and the producer of the Data-Smart City Pod. Prior to this, Betsy worked in a variety of roles in higher education, focusing on deconstructing racial and gender inequality through research, writing, and facilitation. She also researched government spending and transparency at the Lincoln Institute of Land Policy. Betsy holds a master’s degree in Urban and Regional Policy from Northeastern University, a bachelor’s degree in Art History from Boston University, and a graduate certificate in Digital Storytelling from the Harvard Extension School. See also:- [ Public Safety ](/topics/public-safety) Share on:- [ Facebook ](#) - [ Twitter ](#) - [ Linkedin ](#)